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List of Lewiston problems grows

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LEWISTON, Minn. — When the Lewiston City Council fired Police Chief Mark Dungy almost two weeks ago at a controversial meeting, the end of a year-long squabble appeared to be over.

But like Yogi Berra said, “It ain’t over til it’s over.”

And Lewiston’s problems don’t appear to be ending. Last week, embattled city administrator Barb Hampel took out a restraining order against one Lewiston resident, a sign that not all has settled.

Still, the controversy that came to head at the last city meeting — when both the sheriff’s office and state troopers were called to maintain order — started more than a year ago. And it appears to be more than a momentary misunderstanding or a one-issue argument. It goes deeper than that. Beyond the police chief, beyond the current city administrator all the way to alleged clandestine meetings and forged state documents.

About a year ago, the city faced a mounting budget deficit of nearly $1 million. The southeastern community of about 1,500 looked to a city council, largely comprised of inexperienced members, for answers and relief.

The council responded by making tough financial cuts with police staff and training, and increasing water and sewer rates. The council members have said repeatedly they want to “fix things.”

Meanwhile, residents protested when the council cut police staff; they say city council members haven’t listened to their concerns. Residents demanded the council investigate city administrator Barb Hampel and presented the elected body a petition with 550 signatures.

The council largely dismissed the complaints and petition, insisting the decisions were made to put the city back in the black.

Residents meanwhile saw red as events outside the council chambers overshadowed city business.

Hampel was charged with breaking into another city employee’s vehicle. Police Chief Mark Dungy accused the city of targeting him after he’d brought some of Lewiston’s problems to light.

Keeping city staff has also been a problem. Since 2006, the city has seen two city administrators, five clerks, three police officers, one water plant worker. And, most recently, the police chief was fired.

Peace, in this small town, has been about as hard to come by as middle ground. Employees blame Hampel. The council blames “vigilante residents,” and a recent citizen on an online forum asked, “What happened to my hometown?”

But documents obtained by the Daily News show that Lewiston’s problems began before the city council even took office.

The letter

Lewiston resident and former police chief Dave Sanow said he witnessed the newly-elected city council members meeting before they were officially sworn into office in 2006. Sanow said he took pictures of their vehicles outside a local feed store.

At the same time, unbeknownst to Sanow, another Lewiston resident Dan Bjork said the “secret” meetings prompted him to send an unsigned letter on Dec. 22, 2006, to then-city administrator Deb Spitzer, city attorney Wayne Schauble, the Minnesota Attorney General’s Office, the Lewiston Journal and Winona County Attorney Chuck MacLean.

Bjork accused the incoming council — Councilmen Rich Ahrens, Bruce Boynton, Jack Kanz and Gary Sauers and Mayor Lee Rain — of breaking open meeting laws, and he requested their actions be reviewed for fines or resignations.

The next day, Schauble left a message on Sanow’s answering machine saying someone told him he might be behind the unsigned complaint and demanded that Sanow show up in his office Tuesday.

“I don’t want to hear from you at my home or see you at my home,” said Schauble, on an answering-machine recording of the message provided to the Daily News. “Just show up at my office on Tuesday.”

Sanow said the message “completely blindsided” him when he first listened to it, because he didn’t know about Bjork’s complaint. Schauble’s message “seemed threatening,” so Sanow turned to the Lewiston Police Department for advice.

Schauble said he left a message on Sanow’s machine, but only wanted to understand the concerns of the residents.

According a police report, Dungy told Sanow he couldn’t do anything because it wasn’t criminal activity and it was a conflict of interest for Dungy to investigate the city’s attorney.

On Dec. 28, a couple of days after the message was left on his machine, Sanow came to the Lewiston police with a letter “written on plain paper with a black and white copy” of the state auditor’s seal, according to the police report. It was in response to Bjork’s unsigned complaint.

The letter stated the state auditor’s office will “get to the bottom of this,” that “much of what your City Council has done over the last few years is being reviewed by a legal compliance department here at the state level,” and that the incoming council “will be able to rectify these matters and put to rest some of the complaints that have been coming in.”

Dungy said the letter — “just from looking at it” — appeared to be a forgery because of grammatical mistakes, improper formatting, a phony contact number, an incorrect middle initial for the state auditor and the postmark from Rochester, Minn. Also, the number of the auditor’s office spelled out an obscene message.

Mark Kerr, a legal advisor with the Minnesota Auditor’s Office, confirmed within a half hour the letter was fraudulent and said they wanted the matter prosecuted, according to the police report. The state handed the case to Dungy for an initial investigation.

A state data compliance officer was not aware of any other instances of forgery dealing with the state auditor’s office, said Minnesota State Auditor Rebecca Otto.

Otto said not only did the forged letter use the office’s seal, it claimed to be from former state auditor Patricia Anderson.

“There’s two layers there … it’s pretty serious,” she said. “We care very much about our seal because it’s an official symbol and it represents the work we do.”

A conflict of interest

Dungy completed an initial police report that names Schauble and Ahrens as suspects in the forgery case. The report also mentions Jack Kanz, Rain, Sauers and Boynton could be involved.

Mayor Lee Rain and council members Ahrens, Kanz and Boynton told the Daily News they did not know anything about the matter and have never seen Dungy’s police report. They also said they have not been contacted by the Houston County Sheriff’s Office, which is now handling the case because of the conflict of interest posed by the Lewiston police department investigating the city which it serves.

“I haven’t heard anything about it,” Boynton said. “I have no comment for you on anything.”

Rain said Dungy’s criminal report wouldn’t have any merit because it came from the recently terminated Dungy. Sauers couldn’t be reached for comment.

Schauble said he wouldn’t comment on an open investigation. He wondered “what normal person” would send a forged response to a citizen’s complaint from the state auditor, of all state departments.

Schauble said he was interviewed about leaving Sanow a message “four months later,” but said he wasn’t asked about who may have been in the city office around the time of the forgery, or who had access to computer files, the copy machine or other records.

Dungy investigated the initial complaint to see if there was any merit to it. When the investigation took him down the path of investigating the city council, he turned it over to Winona County Sheriff Dave Brand, who also had a conflict of interest. The case is being investigated by the Houston County Sheriff’s Office and, if there is enough evidence to substantiate charges, Olmsted County will prosecute.

Timing

Because of limited mailing days during the holidays, Dungy said it didn’t seem possible any other recipients of Bjork’s complaint besides Schauble had the opportunity to respond.

“Wayne was the only one to correlate (Bjork’s) letter to Dave Sanow, but there’s nothing tying the letter to Dave,” Dungy said. “If you listen to Wayne’s message (to Sanow) he said, ‘Somebody told me you sent this.”

Dungy deduced that whoever sent the forged letter was upset about Bjork exploiting an open-meeting law violation to the state, Dungy said, and Bjork’s complaint “obviously ruffled some feathers” because of the phony letter given in response.

He said he used information from the complainant to pinpoint “likely suspects” based on current circumstances and the timeline of letters.

It’s unknown if the suspects in Dungy’s initial complaint are still suspects today.

Houston County Deputy Chief Scott Yeiter said he talked to “several” people, but could not give specifics because the case is still open.

Yeiter said warrants are needed to prove it was done on a particular computer at the time in question. He hoped someone would come forward with more information before the statute of limitations runs out.

“It kind of sits there in limbo,” Yeiter said. “I still hope at some point I maybe get to charge somebody. More than likely it’s a long shot, but I don’t like cases I can’t solve.”

Yeiter said aggravated forgery is felony offense with fines up to $20,000 and/or 10 years in prison.

From bad to worse

This past week, Hampel took out a harassment restraining order against Sanow after a yelling match in the parking lot of city hall Jan. 10.

According to Hampel’s explanation in the order, Sanow stopped his truck in the parking lot when he saw Hampel drive in, got out and started yelling, shaking his finger and coming after her as she was trying to enter city hall.

Sanow said he asked Hampel how to file a complaint because he felt the city has no policy on how to handle resident complaints. He admitted to telling Hampel the community was better off without her and one-third of the residents signed a petition saying so.

He said Hampel told him citizens were lied to in order to get them to sign the petition, and then called him a liar.

“I elevated my voice a little bit,” Sanow said. “I never came after her at all… I do talk with my hands and I guess if that’s threatening I’m in trouble.”

Hampel did not wish to comment, but did say residents were taking things personally and she shouldn’t be expected to encounter issues like this at work.

Sanow has 45 days to respond to the order, but until then he cannot make contact with Hampel.

A connection?

Dungy was placed on suspension and fired by the council Jan. 9 for not giving enough notice to his superiors about training. The council instituted that policy in a November hearing with Dungy.

Dungy claimed the city council began “scrutinizing” the police department after he forwarded the police report about the forged letter to Houston County.

Dungy’s attorney, Trevor Oliver of Kelly & Fawcett, said nothing indicates the two issues are connected. He said it’s a matter of figuring out why the council fired Dungy without performance-based reasons.

“It’s getting into trying to connect the many dots without anything solid,” Oliver said. “If there turns out to be a connection between this auditor forgery and hounding Mark Dungy out of town, that’s going to be a big issue and I guarantee we’ll act on that.”

Contact reporter Amber Dulek at amber.dulek@lee.net or (507) 453-3513.
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CT Rock wrote on Jan 24, 2008 8:20 AM:

" Good one Bryan. You really showed me with that one. You can smugly sit in your cubicle with your arms-crossed for a good reason today. You really put it to me. (yawns) "

patches wrote on Jan 24, 2008 7:16 AM:

" What happened at the council meeting last night? anybody get cold-cocked? Hey CT, keep kicking there butt! "

Bryan wrote on Jan 24, 2008 12:00 AM:

" You know CT Rock, I do believe that you only spend 20 seconds coming up with your postings. It shows, and speaks volumes for your intelligence. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 23, 2008 8:28 AM:

" maggerella has a point children. Grow up and get serious, I've had enough of your tom foolery. Now lets get back to the veggie virus solution .. "

maggerralla wrote on Jan 23, 2008 12:37 AM:

" Is anything really getting accomplished by all the negative comments. Our town constantly being in the news for all the drama is embarrassing enough..but then we get to see adults acting like children and name calling and airing out more "dirty laundry" with all of the comments posted to these news stories. It's one thing to comment on what's been written in the story, and another to make it a place to attack people, and frankly to run your mouths. Everyone pointing fingers and placing blame is just as bad as the ones they're complaining about!! Just stop!! The truth will come out, let's wait and see that story then give our opinions when it can be a fully informed opinion!! "

Bryan wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:39 PM:

" If anything good will come from any of this, Dave is going to have to spend some of his money to get his BIG mouth out of trouble. Took the local car dealership a little bit to figure out he's nothing but trouble. I wonder how long it will take hardware hank to figure this out? I'm betting that if he continues to vent his issues within the store it won't take very long. "

LilMissSunshine wrote on Jan 22, 2008 6:28 PM:

" Mr.Freedom,
Please leave the Bjork family out of your crappy comments. If you need to accuse someone of being a drunk and then picking on his wife, then please sign your name so we can spread rumors about you, too. The Bjork's are decent human beings, unlike yourself. You're a coward and I'm sure you would appreciate it if people didn't say these kinds of things about you. Grow the h*ll up. "

mury wrote on Jan 22, 2008 5:58 PM:

" Jw—I have not talked with anyone—you are also assuming. All that information are on previous WDN url’s from 11-02 check it out plus my own assumptions in parenthesis. "

Tokajoka wrote on Jan 22, 2008 5:50 PM:

" There is only one thing that would make this more crazy and that is to have Slick Willy and Snivlin' Hillary involved! Things change and the innocence of having a few beers at the Rustic tavern in 1972 have disappeared. "

rufus wrote on Jan 22, 2008 4:59 PM:

" So freedom fighter, tell us what Bjork did to ruffle your feathers. Since the Bjorks have come to town, and not from the cities as you claimed, they have been a good asset here. They have been very active in community events and projects as well as church. You state your a non -resident so explain, did you livein the sajme community as they did before? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 3:14 PM:

" I bet FreedomFighter gets mad at menus when they don't call french fries, 'freedom fries' and demands to see the manager. Probably wears camoflauge, makes noise about the smoking ban every time he goes out, and is a homosexual. VEGGIE VIRUS! "

freedomfighter wrote on Jan 22, 2008 2:58 PM:

" Just calls em like I sees em, no more/less. And it's 1st hand knowledge, much less than is offered here beyond doubt. Just warning is all, check the history of someone before placing all confidence in their honesty--you won't like what you find. and, as for the statement about 20 lame posts to my one, take a count back a few weeks; even just a few days, FTM....call it a goal accomplished. YOU Gettin' it yet....??? "

The Way I See It wrote on Jan 22, 2008 2:46 PM:

" @FreedomFighter
I would rather see 20 posts from CT Rock than one of your posts calling one of our citizens and drunk and scofflaw.
The way I see it, if you are going to take a personal shot at someone, hiding behind a moniker is pretty sad.
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CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Freedom, you're right, we should be more like you .... an angry "CAPS" typing conversative blowhard. "

freedomfighter wrote on Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM:

" .............**crickets**.........................pin drop.................................gettin' it yet? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 2:15 PM:

" Who better to fight the veggie virus addicts than a shape-shifter? Lets talk less about CT Rock and more about the salvation of Lewiston. "

PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 22, 2008 1:39 PM:

" CT 'shapeshifter' Rock - yes, folks, watch CT change right before your eyes, molding himself into whoever he needs to be to fit the latest storyline - and disavowing what he himself has claimed in the past... "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 1:30 PM:

" Seems I struck a nerve by pointing out the lack of entrepreneurs on this blog-site. If I'm a custodian than Barb Hampel is a supermodel. (wink) Freedom, I'm glad you've become a fan of mine. Together we can clash this titantic veggie virus and make sure it stops spreading into the minds of many of the people in here. I forgive them, they know not what they blog. "

freedomfighter wrote on Jan 22, 2008 1:08 PM:

" Also, BTW, just have to tell you just how INCREDIBLY HILARIOUS CT is........boy, gotta hand it to the guy who doesn't let people completely ignoring him and hoping he just goes away get in the way of his intellectualism! Keep 'em coming CT, boy, you really are FUN-NEE!!! I just have to catch my breath from all of his inventive and intelligent wit. He wouldn't last a week as a 3rd shift janitor, even if it was a union job. "

PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 22, 2008 12:53 PM:

" Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned the custodial job, CT. It struck a nerve, eh? Did you get fired or did the temporary assignment end? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 12:28 PM:

" Enough is enough, back to the main article topic, the veggie virus. Lets stay on target and respect the boards. Thanks. "

jw wrote on Jan 22, 2008 12:22 PM:

" CT - first Mury has to read the blogs to and consult with the Mayor and other council persons before he/SHE blogs. Do I hear confidentiality. I hope Dungy's attorney subpoenas these blogs and finds out who is saying crap, like about Sick leave, only information Barb and the council have. Keep it up Mury, you will hang yourself yet. "

PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 22, 2008 12:19 PM:

" So, CT - that second shift custodial job you had is history, eh? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:56 AM:

" Ever think that maybe some people are their own bosses who just have a knack for making money through wise investments so they aren't constricted to a 9 to 5 desk job? Perhaps some people aren't watched by big brother, but work from home on their own computers? Hmmmm, I know its tough for blue collar WSU alums to consider this in Winona, but with wise financial planning it is possible! VEGGIE VIRUS! "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:52 AM:

" Again, if I calculate the time it takes me for to post and think up a response it generally averages to around 20 seconds. I post maybe 10-15 thoughts in here a day, maybe less. So if you take 20 seconds x 15 times (thats assuming I'm at full stride) you get 300 seconds. I highly doubt my employer or my productivity suffers if I spend 300 seconds a day not working hard. Mury, I understand your responses take you time, perhaps a full 5 to 10 minutes to coherently put your response together, and another 10 minutes to type it. If you had 15 responses x 15-20 minutes, yes, that would definitely lead to a employer needing to terminate you. Now that that is settled, lets stop the veggie virus. "

mury wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:33 AM:

" CT is not working--he's on this blog. The company I work for would fire him for--not working. This is entertainment for this person. "

PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:08 AM:

" How is work going today, CT? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 10:57 AM:

" mury, you're sadly mistaken and very delusional. The veggie virus has you in its grasp. Stay strong and stick with it buddy, Dungy and crew will rescue and cure you in time. I advise locking yourself in a sheltered room filled with assortments of meat and fruits, to subside the veggie cravings. If you're full and unable to consume veggies, you must just be able to get through this. "

mury wrote on Jan 22, 2008 10:48 AM:

" CTR—there are other viruses out there that you have failed to mention: VIRUSES 1) failure to promptly prepare police reports 2) not pursuing petty theft case 3) not returning citizens call about gun permit 4) no police coverage as requested and no schedule available 5) taking sick leave (assuming none left) instead of vacation. The virus you keep speaking of is only one infraction. There are more… Are you in the post office or just a co-conspirators? Just because you keep harping on only one of these because it pertained to an elderly person makes me real angry. It reminds me of when my grandmother had her house broken into…you have no respect for elderly people. "

as i see it wrote on Jan 22, 2008 10:04 AM:

" anybody that thinks this will be over with the present council and Hampel still in charge is got to be stupid. Only way to get things going and stop this is to have everyone resign and let the people take back the town. Just no way is this mess going to change. Cannot understand why they havent walked away already. Power struggle!!!! I'll show you!! attitudes. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 22, 2008 8:45 AM:

" You people just don't get it do you, you just don't. The council is controlling YOU with the veggie virus. FIGHT BACK! "

keep on pilin' wrote on Jan 22, 2008 8:22 AM:

" To Lewnative4 with regard to your comment about how big kahunas need to be---about the same size needed to hide behind the pseudo-names on a blog site.....pot, meet kettle "

Ripper wrote on Jan 22, 2008 8:16 AM:

" I'm still thinking of running for council... At least I'd be willing to listen to everyone and make a real decision... And I would also answer reporters questions... See you in Nov. "

bulldog1 wrote on Jan 22, 2008 4:13 AM:

" Why doesn't everybody keep all the evedince two themselves till the investegaters talk to you. don't give the councel any ideas or a heads up what to cover up. or they will come out ahead . who want's it more . "

Bryan wrote on Jan 21, 2008 6:33 PM:

" To Adam: Didn't the coment" WITHOUT CRIMINAL INTENT" come from Holly? Wasn't Holly the owner of the vehicle Barb went into? So if the owner of the vehicle is quoted as saying "WITHOUT CRIMINAL INTENT" what law was broken? "

Jeff wrote on Jan 21, 2008 5:46 PM:

" All of you are idiots. Who cares what the Lewiston City Council does? What are they going to have a secret meeting about, which hick to tax more. Too bad that tornado a few years back wasn't big enough to wipe out the whole town. At least then we wouldn't have to read about this meaningless garbage. NOBODY CARES! "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 1:15 PM:

" MissSunShine, I know that you are a paid hire by the council to silence me. I saw this coming long ago and had a feeling you'd make an appearance as I grew closer to the source of the veggie virus. I know that I'm also marked and eventually will be found and taken care of. Still I fight for the salvation of Lewiston and it's vegetables regardless of your blatant attacks to end me. The council may think they have total control of the town through this veggie virus, but with enough support Dungy will return to end it. MissSunShine, I advise you to take a look in the mirror, wipe off the celery chunks from around your lips, and cleanse yourself of the virus before it fully engulfs your soul. "

LilMissSunshine wrote on Jan 21, 2008 1:04 PM:

" Dear CT Rock,
You are the biggest idiot ever. Quit the immature postings, stick to the subject on the blog, or stay off. You have no sense of humor and your blogs are maybe a little bit more mature than an infant's....but not by much. Now go back to study hall. "

mackenziejhaugen wrote on Jan 21, 2008 1:04 PM:

" Wow...I don't know who to belive. I think the only honorable action left is for everyone involved to step down until the investigation is complete. Is that possible? Is it possible/legal to get replacements in their positions until this is all sorted out? I'm certainly not placing blame on anyone, but this is such a twisted mess that there's absolutely no way for citizens to trust anyone until a full investigation is completed. Can someone comment on whether or not an interim counsel is possible? Thanks. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 12:59 PM:

" lewnative is discussing peas and vegetables, best to avoid making contact with this individual until full medical rehabilitation is completed. "

lewnative4 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 12:31 PM:

" Hey Rufus.....how big of kahunas does it take to send an unsigned letter??????? pea or grape size....... "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 12:28 PM:

" "Let's hope that when all is said and done, we will know the facts. Then the rumors and malicious attacks can stop" ....... True, but only with the help of Dungy can we stop this veggie virus. Just wishing it will go away is laziness and unhelpful. You need to take some direct action, promote meat, and get Dungy back on the attack to slow or stop the veggie addiction running amuck in your town. "

lewres99 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 12:23 PM:

" mury - oops! no need to apologize. After your apology I went back and noticed that CT had posted after me. I saw the "rumors & lies" bit that I had addressed and assumed you were calling me stupid. Now I understand what you were addressing. I think, overall, we are probably on the same side of the fence on this. My heart just aches that it has been blown so out of proportion. Let's hope that when all is said and done, we will know the facts. Then the rumors and malicious attacks can stop. Who will be red faced then? :) "

mury wrote on Jan 21, 2008 12:00 PM:

" lewres99—I am sorry: the remark pertained to the individual who keeps bringing up the issue about the veggies. You seem a lot more level headed that most on this blog. I totally agree with your statements.
Again I apologize.
"

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 11:50 AM:

" And rufus, I would advise getting some search teams together to look into the warehouse district to get proof of all the veggie evidence. The council will probably have guards or watch dogs so I would advise moving with discreet stealth dressed in all black attire. Maybe even bring along some steaks to distract the hounds. Having undisputable proof of the council's stockpile of stolen veggies could just be the leverage needed to bring them down during the next town meeting. I would advise creating a passionate and persuasive opening and speech to make it appeal to the masses attending. "

rufus wrote on Jan 21, 2008 11:26 AM:

" Most of this occured over a year ago. At that time it was a laughing matter that people saw the incoming council having meetings. Then in January they had their agenda in place and moved forward with it good or bad. Either way people saw these gatherings and asked why? At least someone had the kahunas do something instead of sitting back and doing nothing. It started out as mistrusting them from the start and they haven't proved to be worthy of trust since. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 11:25 AM:

" mury, the veggie virus is no laughing matter or joke. Again, please respect the topic and board. Thanks. "

lewres99 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:59 AM:

" mury- why are you calling me "stupid".

Rumors and lies are not factual and hold no water (or place) in a lawsuit.

The rumors and lies that I was referring to are allegations of affairs/relationships, "secret" meetings, etc. Things that are being brought up to try to smear the reputations of our elected officials. Stick to the issues, instead of trying to dig skeletons out of closets. There are plenty of facts that we need to stick with. The name calling and character-bashing needs to stop. "

mury wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:51 AM:

" If there is a lawsuit and this goes to court…the rumors and lies will come out and there will be more than what has ever been revealed in the paper. Your stupidity is showing… it was not just a veggie thing…there is more…but that will also come out in the lawsuit. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:44 AM:

" "The town is being overrun by rumors and lies" ......... and don't forget the veggie virus. See the connection? "

lewres99 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:39 AM:

" The town is being overrun by rumors and lies. It's disgusting. "

lewres99 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:37 AM:

" cont'd
Elected officials are supposed to carry out business on behalf of the residents they are elected to represent. They cannot always make decisions that EVERYONE will agree with. To say the whole city is against the council and wants them all out is a sweeping generalization. It seems that the ones that are angry about the situaiton are speaking on behalf of the whole city and that couldn't be further from the truth. Grow up people. Let them do their job. "

lewres99 wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:36 AM:

" Please!!! I want my town back! I have lived in Lewiston for nine years and cannot believe what a "soap opera" this has turned into! I have been pretty quiet up until this point and listening to what everyone has to say. This whole drama is because a group of "concerned citizens" is making a whole lot of noise. I'm not exactly a fan of Barb, nor have I agreed with every decision the council has made, but I have never seen a group of adults behave so "junior-highishly" (wait, I think I witnessed less drama when I was a teenager). We always say that kids these days are immature and lack respect, but what sort of example are we setting for our kids by acting this way? "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:31 AM:

" spike, the present is getting Dungy back on the attack against the swarming veggie virus. Stop bickering amongst yourselves and go on a Dungy recovery. "

spike wrote on Jan 21, 2008 10:30 AM:

" so 40yearresident.aka troller..are you a leader or a follower or do you just like to complain about everybody else, you have lots of old issues, you are living in the past....get up to date and join the present. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:35 AM:

" mury, if you're ignoring the veggie virus than you are 'BEHIND' the times. This isn't some hoax or joke, but a real issue with real consequences. You keep fighting amongst yourselves, the citizens and the council, while the virus spreads. Have you not noticed your craving for carrots yet? Have you not noticed that your local grocery establishments are out of green veggies? The council is purposefully distracting your minds with restraining orders, cutbacks, etc, so you won't notice the serious shortage of vegetables and overall addiction your minds are denying. This is no joke mury, please respect the virus and the boards. Thanks "

The Way I See It wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:26 AM:

" After the publication of this article, there are some people squirming in Lewiston. The way I see it, most of the squirming will be taking place at City Hall.

This should make for a very interesting city council meeting on Wednesday. Will they allow us to bring popcorn in for the meeting? "

40yearresident wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:26 AM:

" spike- the Journal was charging to much for ads,for notices, minutes and the like. To cut down on spending they[ the City of Lewiston] is using other means of getting the word out.. The Journal is not owned locally, in fact if you call to complain about an article, they refer you to the one who wrote it.. Please use facts sir or Ms.. Don't be a follower be a leader. "

mury wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:24 AM:

" "Along the way of life, someone must have sense enough to cut off the chain of hate."
By Martin Luther King "

mury wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:20 AM:

" CT Rock…get back under the rock you crawl out from with your one track mind. Enough is enough about the veggie episode. You need to move forward and stay with the times. "

40yearresident wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:16 AM:

" These types are not happy until they have us as sad and confused as they are, and that makes them feel normal because others seem to have the same pain as they do.. this it true.. What you need to think about is what do we do to pick up the pieces this time. Keep in mind Dave is in the company of like people.. They are of the same thinking, and they stick together untilm the damage is done.. Then they turn on each other. Pray we can weather this.. "

40yearresident wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:11 AM:

" Trollers comments are close to what most folks in Lewiston think. I grew up here,and 3 people have shaped and tried to ruin our town. and after they had done all the damage they could they leave town. Pros L.. Harold W. Dennis E. When will Dave Sanow feel he is finished his job of ruining our town?? When he moves out..I think all four of these people were abused by their dad.It won't end with this. [continued] "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 21, 2008 9:01 AM:

" I'm surprised that of all the issues in Lewiston, Amber forgot to touch upon the most drastic and dangerous one ... the veggie virus. To many it's quite obvious the council is working on behalf of the veggie virus's motives. Basically they let it spread so it infects all their opposition so they can rally them to their cause to dominate the farmlands of the southeast. They feel the more veggie infected they can control combined with their pre-meditated mass surplus of vegetables stockpile they can use veggie currency to motivate and lure the infected to do their bidding. They knew Dungy was able to counter this, perhaps lead a rebellion, so they had him ousted from the town with a one-sided biased meeting against him. As of now the veggie virus is being controlled by the council and spreading into surrounding towns. "

spike wrote on Jan 21, 2008 8:57 AM:

" I just had to comment also on another reason that this council is not respected, a small, but huge vote they passed was making the Winona Shopper their paper of choice. The Lewiston Journal is one of our local businesses and has always been the legal paper of the City of Lewiston, but because the newspaper reports the goings on of this council, and they don't like it, they have decided to even change that. They are trying to shut down any controversy that is published. For the record, I am only a subscriber to the Lewiston Journal, I have no other connection. "

Adam wrote on Jan 21, 2008 6:58 AM:

" RE: Sonny The Sheriff's office does employ deputies on a prt time basis for water patrol, however these people are full time licensed as peace officers by the state. The sheriff's office does not employ any part time licensed officers. "

jw wrote on Jan 21, 2008 6:47 AM:

" Follow up on the restraining order yourselves MN Criminal Code 609.748 HARASSMENT; RESTRAINING ORDER and like Adam said, there needs to be no criminal intent upon entering the vehicle, check out MN Criminal Code 609.546. Good luck on the Pre-trial Barb, the residents will be there to see you get it handed to you.
"

a.d. wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:07 PM:

" Hi, my name is Lewiston, and I'd like a scapegoat to step forward so I can move on and just go back to being a hick town with a speed trap and a Kwik Trip. Thanks. "

yarnivek wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:41 PM:

" Cameras today aren't very big. Most are wallet sized. I know many people who have cameras on their cell phones. It certainly isn't unusual for a person to keep their camera with them. Especially living around here. "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:00 PM:

" I'm not trying to teach anything. I am saying I don't think she will be convicted of anything because she wasn't trying to do anything criminal. Say, what did you ever come up with on that part time thing. Did Brand or does Brand use part timers for boat patrol? "

Adam wrote on Jan 20, 2008 9:33 PM:

" RE: Sonny...Here is your intent...Barb did not accidently enter someone's vehicle did she!!

Read up on your Criminal Code before you try and teach it.

609.546 MOTOR VEHICLE TAMPERING.
A person is guilty of a misdemeanor who intentionally:
(1) rides in or on a motor vehicle knowing that the vehicle was taken and is being driven by another without the owner's permission; or
(2) tampers with or enters into or on a motor vehicle without the owner's permission.
"

believe wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:09 PM:

" How sad is this! There are a lot of great residents of Lewiston, some are new, some are longtime residents. With all of this negative drama coming from our city council meetings, why would anyone want to move here, let alone support any of the businesses in this town? I bet the revenue has dropped severely. How sad is it to wake up each day and wonder if Lewiston has made the headlines again. There are residents that are just trying to live our lives, work here, and more importantly raise our children in a community that used to have that "good hometown" feeling. What has happened to us? Our town is dying and no one seems to save it! Lets get back to focusing resolving issues and bring our children up in the community that we can be proud of again! "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:37 PM:

" KOP “restraining orders against the 2 city residents” I didn’t see that in the paper today..the WDN said one restraining order. Can you read or is there a restraining order against you now? Why does this town have so much hate. I thought this was the heart of Winona County…not the HATE of Winona County. Where is the, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”? "

LilMissSunshine wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:30 PM:

" What an embarrassing time for Lewiston. The headlines we read just about every day are so concerning to me. I have lived all my life in this area and I have never thought about packing up my family....ever....until lately. All of this mudslinging, backstabbing, finger pointing.....is this really WORKING people? Is this how we want to be remembered? Do we really want to be "put on the map" for this kind of crap? Whether you have a bone to pick with the councilmen or any city employee, why should every single issue be tattled on to KTTC and the WDN? It's like this town has regressed or something. There are honest, God fearing citizens in this community, but you'd never know it from the few who are out there dragging us down with them. Knock it off Lewiston. "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 6:41 PM:

" The City of Lewiston should pay the expense of a restraining order. She was approached as an employee of the City. It would be like a cop being accused of something on duty and his department paying to investigate it. The tax payers pay for that too.
I wonder if she will be found guilty in the pending criminal case? Where was the criminal intent? "

rufus wrote on Jan 20, 2008 6:38 PM:

" It appears that Bjork and/or Sanow did try to save OUR town from headlines before all this happened. But the investigators or State dropped the ball by not further invessigating it. Now I hope that they come in. The State Auditors office can check their website to see who has been on their web site, assuming that is the only place you get their seal on short notice, good luck to who did it. That will be the nail in their coffin. "

believe wrote on Jan 20, 2008 6:21 PM:

" How sad is this! There are a lot of great residents of Lewiston, some are new, some are longtime residents. With all of this negative drama coming from our city council meetings, why would anyone want to move here, let alone support any of the businesses in this town? I bet the revenue has dropped severely. How sad is it to wake up each day and wonder if Lewiston has made the headlines again. There are residents that are just trying to live our lives, work here, and more importantly raise our children in a community that used to have that "good hometown" feeling. What has happened to us? Our town is dying and no one seems to save it! Lets get back to focusing resolving issues and bring our children up in the community that we can be proud of again? "

Adam wrote on Jan 20, 2008 5:35 PM:

" Restraining orders are not free!!!! Did Barb pay the fee's or have the citizens of Lewiston coughed up more money to pay the fees for her!! If so did the council approve this expense? If they didn't approve it did she violate policy and subject to employee discipline! What's the differnce anyway, the citizens are already paying to defend her on her pending criminal case!!!! Another good use of taxpayer dollars!!! "

kenzie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 5:25 PM:

" Mury is right I have heard Mr. Rain commment that he doesn't give interviews to Amber anymore because in the past she hasn't printed facts accurately. How did she gather her information about Mr. Rain in the paper today when he didn't give her an interview? "

exmin wrote on Jan 20, 2008 4:41 PM:

" I am a former Lewiston resident and I even worked in Lewiston, but I moved out over 30 years ago because I thought Lewiston was nothing but a loser one horse town. Reading the WDN has just re-enforced my opinion. The only thing that has changed, is the horse died or moved away and has been replaced by a herd of donkeys spelled "J" "A" es. Keep up the good work I enjoy reading about the wonderful progress your hillbilly town is making.
"

as i see it wrote on Jan 20, 2008 4:40 PM:

" Remember Mayor Engrav shouting in the audience "I know where you heard that, up the street". Question? will we need to find more parking at the Wed. meeting for the satellite news trucks? This is worst then the Mayor of the small town that got national attention for a photo taken on the fire truck with her blouse off. I think finally we are going to see just how this town has been run in the few years after we lost the capable people during Laufenburgers term. Maybe no more Main street decisions. good job Dave. "

young vet wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:58 PM:

" Dig a hole and bury Lewiston. The only good solution is to give up, and let these people become other towns' problems "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:46 PM:

" Troller: Why does everybody keep writing? Don't they know you already figured it out?
Please people, read Troller's entries. "

louie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:44 PM:

" Mury, How would you know that Amber doesn't write what the council tells her? Almost everytime I have seen Amber try to talk to them after meeetings, they have no comment. They are given the chance to tell their side of the story and refuse to explain...why do you think the citizens have questions about the council...because no answers are given. "

rufus wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:33 PM:

" luv all these personal attacks--petty, stupid excuses for human beings whose little fingers have been caught in the cookie jar. If the council was going to "fix" everything, more power to them, all they would have had to do was start their tenure honestly. closed door meetings put them in the mistrust category right away. they have no one to blame but themselves on that one. maybe everyone would have been willing to give them more of a chance is they weren't doing behind the scenes stuff. I stand by the comment i made previously--items needs to be addressed at the meetings where the council people have to be held accountable for their decisions. Not brought up, no discussion and then voted through because they have already discussed it "privately". "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:26 PM:

" “Rain said Dungy’s criminal report wouldn’t have any merit because it came from the recently terminated Dungy.” I doubt that Mr Rain ever said that to Amber because he won’t talk to her… she does not write what the council tells her. "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:01 PM:

" This was stared before this council took office 1/1/07. Correction "This was STARTED." "

spike wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:59 PM:

" cont'd....The people in town were watching almost daily meetings going on at the local feed store, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist long to figure out to carry a camera and document this! The council should have taken every step once elected, not to do anything to disrespect their election to office and disgrace their positions, by this improper, even if not illegal, meetings. It was laughed about, one of the councilmen would park in the city parking lot and walk to the local feed mill, thinking no one would see him. "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:57 PM:

" "yup, here we go again..attacking two decent human beings for standing up for the citizens of Lewiston". This was stared before this council took office 1/1/07. Who did they have a beef with...the old council??? "

amum wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:49 PM:

" Come on now, grow up and have some empathy. I teach my kids to behave better.
The city council has made mistakes, pretty much everyone has.
I think they are trying their best, unfortanatly they are just like us HUMAN, and being elected to council does not make them any less or anymore than human.
Maybe the council would be more open to talk if people where not looking for reasons to knock them down. It's a thankless job, and one I would not take. "

spike wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:47 PM:

" yup, here we go again..attacking two decent human beings for standing up for the citizens of Lewiston, that is why no one wants to speak up, they and their families get trashed for no reason. Thank you Dave and Dan for daring to do this, there are alot of us out here who respect you for taking this chance and we welcome any news regarding this council so that someone with authority steps in and finally does something. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:31 PM:

" Gee I don't know Sonny. Sanow said he took pictures. Maybe he pulled out pencil and paper and drew them then. Still none of you has addressed why Sanow would be taking photos, alleging secret meetings and showing up with a forged letter. So far, he's the only one in possession of the forgery. Go ahead and flame. It's all you've shown so far. I don't have a side in this. But, can you at least read the article Sonny so we can cut back on the nonsense. Attack, attack, attack. Still doesn't prove anything other than a political bias and an incredible lack of interest in the truth. Perfect Liberal, you are no stranger. Oh, and now "everyone saw this meeting". The plot thickens. "

louie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Under Minn. Stat. §609.748, harassment is defined as....REPEATED (key pt here) incidents of intrusive or unwanted acts, words or gestures that have a substantial adverse effect or are intended to have a substantial adverse effect on the safety, security or privacy of another, regardless of the relationship between you and the alleged harasser. Sanow had one encouncter with Hampel and gets a restraining order...what a joke! My understanding was that another officer was there...if she was so threatened, why didn't she go to him? Nope instead.. she gets mad and files a BOGUS order! Way to abuse the system for those that really need those orders. "

louie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:02 PM:

" Who cares if Sanow was carrying a camera. Maybe the residents have been discussing their concerns about these "secret meetings" and Sanow decided to get the proof need to bring about open mtg violations. It is not a crime to carry a camera. And with this group I would too. I don't exactly call winning by default being elected...but Lewiston did drop the ball on that one. Another black mark for Lewiston. "

rufus wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:00 PM:

" Freedomfighter, if you know the anonymous letter-writer personally, do you know his health history too? And that he lived in the cities, I know that he did not live in the cities before he moved here, if so where??? "

rufus wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:56 PM:

" Troller, everyone saw the "secret mettings" did all of these have business with Jack and Steve, I dont think so being they live in town and have little or no interest in feed. You are correct we need to get rid of Hampel, especially by comments coming from others that had to deal with her int he past are still coming to light. "

freedomfighter wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:48 PM:

" this clown, since residing in twin cities has changed NONE, and loves gossiping, and has no problem CREATING drama if that's what it takes ....Ever met him? Bet ya smelled booze! Ask anyone who knows him; he's a middle-aged man with a kindergarten mentality. Trust him for a second at your peril. How can a guy this totally unlikeable be BEFRIENDED, much less ENTRUSTED with secrets of criminal wrongdoing? Plausible??? Most people are happy to AVOID a conversation with the guy! Most folks as perfect as he claims to be don't have BRUTAL DT's every day till noon. Look closely at him-- "

PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:38 PM:

" Troller,
You are a typical conservative - attack the liberal, not the issue. "

freedomfighter wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:26 PM:

" I will tell you all, that from my knowledge (personal) of the anonymous letter-writer, is that this is standard m.o. from him. To be the biggest scofflaw in the mix, and to then be the one to throw gas on flames after he stirs it all up. I know/care little or none about the other events of the town as I am a non-resident, but I will tell you it is a FOOL who puts any merit into ANYTHING done by this guy. Try not to notice the trembling hand that is a dead giveaway of the tip of his skeletons. Ever think someone may have been on the good side of the law when driving thru town wasted before, now with new ldrship, he does not have this "protection" and thus the axe to grind? DO NOT TRUST THIS WALKING SOCIAL CANCER, he is a 100% certified FOOL. "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:12 PM:

" Cont. (This all happened before Christmas 2006)
The blame was put on other residence by Dungy himself who has to be in cahoots with the other two---who have an axe to grind. Why would they be out there taking pictures of a council who has not yet been sworn into office. These people wanted them out of office before they began…And they are still trying. Most of these blog are into character assassinations; unsubstantiated-- from their own imagination or idle gossip. That speaks volume into what type of people are out there; who are threatening to run for council???
"

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:55 PM:

" If there aren't any search warrants to show some evidence of who created the letter the cops will need a confession or a witness. If they haven't done search warrants yet it is probably too late. Something might happen to cause a witness to turn against the person who did it, but probably not.
Typical liberal, make up a theory and expect everyone to believe it.
Because Sanow started the complaint doesn't mean someone else didn't write the letter the way so many people in Lewiston jump on the bandwagon when something is started. "

mury wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:49 PM:

" Actions speak louder than word…when a person is fired it is because of his actions or inactions. I’ve known all the council member for a long time and know all of them to be people who are trying to make the best of a bad situation that they were elected into by the people of Lewiston. Some of this reporting is not accurate. You can’t believe everything you read. First the city is not 1 million in debt. It is 5+ million in principle plus interested of another 3 million: making it over 8+ million in debt. I agree about the unsigned letters being sent then a fraudulent letter comes into the hands of the ex police chief: that is where the investigation should stop. cont "

winonaguy wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:48 PM:

" What a mess! As an impartial observer - I know none of the parties involved and only have a passing interest in Lewiston - it seems unfortunate that there aren't any adults around to gather up toys and send all these toddlers to the "time out" corner. Someone is going to have to step out of this disaster and be the bigger person or the entire community will suffer for years (more than it already has). "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:47 PM:

" No place does it say Sanow just happened to be carrying a camera. Where does Sanow live, in town? How long does it take to get from one side of town to the other? Did someone suspect there was a meeting violation and tell Sanow to get a camera? Did Sanow see something he thought he should get a picture of and go home and get a camera? "

keep on pilin' wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Rain said Dungy’s criminal report wouldn’t have any merit because it came from the recently terminated Dungy. So Lee, all of the other ongoing investigations now have no merit??? Happy New from Mayor Lee Rain to all of those people that had pending cases. And he said he was once in law enforcement, Ya Utica?? Maybe that's how the Amish police themselves.

"

keep on pilin' wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:06 PM:

" Look at the timing of everything, letter sent by Bjork on 12/22 Schauble receives letter and calls Sanow with demanding words, then xmas, then they receive letter from auditor?? HMMMMM Look people, Atleast someone or people saw what was coming to our city, good for them. But nothing came of it then and now it is coming to light. Investigation came out in Aprila then they started attacking Chief Dungy. Wow!! WE NEED THE STATE HERE NOW!!!! "

sanpatch wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:44 AM:

" Fines up to $20,000 and /or 10 years in prison, hmmmmmm! Rumors have it that after the dust settles on this issue, it will lee rain's turn into his shady past, and then on to barbie and her tainted past. I bet there will be alot found on both of them. Expose them for what they are and get some decent folks in there to represent Lewiston.It will definitely take time to get everything cleaned up, but have faith, it can be done. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:37 AM:

" Sonny, it's got nothing to do with confessing. In an investigation you ask questions, compare answers, then come up with new questions designed at getting to the truth. Cops and reporters do it every day. You are anti council and that's your prerogative. What's the matter, afraid where a little further investigation might lead? I'd like to know who dummied up that letter and more importantly, I'd like to know why. Curious minds want to know. If your not curious, why comment? We know how you feel. (typical liberal, attack the writer not the issue) "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:31 AM:

" Well JD what fuels my comments are the glaring problems with this witch hunt. Why would Dave Sanow be running around with a camera, documenting some meeting (which was not illegal, they weren't sworn in yet, we still have the right to assembly) and why is Dave Sanow the one coming forth with this forged letter? The letter is the only crime committed here. The actions of the council as a whole are open to any interpretation a person wants. It's just opinion, nothing wrong with that. But anyone can print up a letter and start the ball rolling on a fraud investigation. Is it the truth in the allegation or the seriousness of allegation which fuels your post? "

murphy wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:05 AM:

" Under the open meeting laws, you do not have to be discussing city business to be in violation. If there was a quorum of members meeting without public notice, it violates open meeting laws. However, if they weren't sworn in yet as council members could they be conducting public business? It's all very murky and I'm glad I don't live there. "

louie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:01 AM:

" I find it quite humorous the mayor tries to divert the attn off himself by trying to discredit Dungy. The guilty ones usually try to divert the attn elsewhere in order to avoid any scruitiny. Nice comment mayor--shows what your really made of. And unfortunately you are the representation of our city...how embarassing for the citizens. "

J.D. wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:00 AM:

" Is it a coincidence that the majority of this came out when Hampel started at the City? It is very obvious to readers that the Council is very one sided and doesn't follow the rules of the game very well. They seem to make up rules as they go along to benefit themselves and their side. To see a City Administrator file a TRO is funny in the least. It shows lack of guidance and respect. She has no where to go and the people have no respect for her. Then there are the select few that know everything. Maybe the investigators should just interview everyone in the City, but once again it will just be a divided answer full of personal beliefs not truths. Its a sad time for your City and until all this back stabbing and name calling stops, it will continue until it crumbles. "

J.D. wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:58 AM:

" To the majority of Lewiston residents, I feel for ya. Lewiston is a town divided. Driven apart by malicious rumors, legal problems, lack of trust, unnappropriate conduct and then there are the blogs. One can only guess what fuels the comments from Tom, Mury, Troller and the rest. Is it the truth? Or is it comments to add fuel to the fire and try to sway people to join their side? Either way, Lewistons dirty laundry is being hung out in front of millions. Is that what you guys want to happen in your town? Whatever truths lie underneath should be exposed, but it's not appropriate to do it on a blog. cont... "

louie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Open mtg violations seems second nature for this council. I read the minutes of the truth in taxation mtg and since no one showed up, they discussed city business. Citizens were not aware of this and I am sure no agenda was posted. Isn't this a violation? It is about time the council is exposed for its conduct. "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Yes, perhaps the culprits that won't confess to the cops will confess to Amber. Why didn't they think of that. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:35 AM:

" Well, I don't believe anything is cleared up. Yet! But until questions are answered completely and accurately the mystery remains. If this investigation sends a council member, an attorney or a disgruntled citizen before a judge then justice is served. But this article presents more red flags than answers. Now you may hate the council members, you may not like Sanow or Bjork. But it's in the best interest of Lewiston to have the real truth come out, not some "from the heart" opinion. This is a wonderful opportunity for Amber Dulek to continue the investigation and perhaps come up with the ultimate truth. I've know all these people for years. I have no favorites when it comes to what's right. "

Sonny wrote on Jan 20, 2008 9:59 AM:

" The cops investigating this are obviously inept. They have been trying to figure it out for months and haven't been able to, Troller was able to clear it up within a few hours of this article being printed. "

secure110 wrote on Jan 20, 2008 9:09 AM:

" The citizens of Lewiston need to stop this and stop it now. The citizens of Lewiston need to FIRE the City administrator Barb Hampel, The Mayor Lee Rain,Council members Ahrens, Boyton, Kanz and Sauer as soon as possible. People like the Mayor is going to jail and the sooner they get rid of these clowns the sooner Lewiston can get back to being a small town. I hope sheriff Dave Brand wakes up and hires Mark dungy. He is a very good policeman and Lewiston Has lost out again. Keep Rain and Hampel, and the games will continues. Lighting will hit hard and it will not rain rain. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:57 AM:

" One other thing redbridge. If this "clandestine" meeting was about city business, what came of it? What were the results? Also, parking on main street Lewiston in front of the feed store really doesn't seem that "clandestine" does it? Is it your position council members are prohibited from talking outside city hall? No. I know it isn't. Also, what makes you think law enforcement isn't looking at Sanow? I bet they are. Now, to be helpful, you've posted your feelings on me, Richard Ahrens, the balance of council. Do you have any thoughts on the investigation which may include some comment on the information posted in this article and not personalities of fellow posters on this board? "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:44 AM:

" I don't think so Redbridge. I have no axe to grind with Dave Sanow, but I have known the man for 30 years. This story has some glaring questions which should be answered. If Dave is clear, that's fine, but the investigation needs to be thorough wouldn't you agree? To do this, we need to look at who is making the allegations here and that's Sanow, nobody else. Also, Sanow's behavior predates this letter and is plenty suspect. Especially as it pertains to this "clandestine" meeting which supposedly took place. Do you want the truth of the matter? Whichever way it turns out, I think the truth should be paramount in this investigation. But no, I don't have it in for Dave, I'm just being realistic. "

redbridge wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:17 AM:

" Whoaaa! Hang on there Troller! There's smoke risin' off of that keyboard! Look at this comment page. Think it looks like ya' got an axe to grind with Sanow? I'm not sure that anyone else shares your conspiracy theory. Your assumption that Ms Dulek and the law enforcement officers named above are not as 'clever' as yourself is a bit condescending, to say the least. And to look at the feed store meeting of a city-council-elect as a coincidental occurrence... well I find that a bit naive for a person of your super-sleuth skills, Troller. Even here in Rural America.
"

keep on pilin' wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:15 AM:

" interesting that this story FINALLY came to light. I know Houston County (which by the way is where Schauble's from) interviewed people about this MONTHS ago. Accusations have been made and all of a sudden we have a fired chief who was involved, and restraining orders against the 2 city residents who were involved. This thing stinks so bad no amount of bleach could disinfect it. And just for the record, I think Winona county needs to review with their judges what restraining orders are for. This is a bit of a stetch. Barb qualifies for restraining orders with the way she talks and treats people, maybe Lewiston residents need to file one against her. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:12 AM:

" One last thing. How is it Dave Sanow received a letter, which was a forged response to Bjork's letter to the state? I thought Bjork's letter was UNSIGNED? These two must have cooked this up! There is no "up side" for a council member or Schauble to have written this since, if they were lead to believe the letter was sent to the state, it's safe to assume, the state was going to respond. Quote:"On Dec. 28, a couple of days after the message was left on his machine, Sanow came to the Lewiston police with a letter “written on plain paper with a black and white copy” of the state auditor’s seal, according to the police report. It was in response to Bjork’s unsigned complaint." Sanow is at the root of this!
"

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:46 AM:

" When investigating a fire you start from the area of least burn and work your way in to find the cause. Amber, your story is a good start. Now let's see some real investigative reporting. To do that, you need to look back. Think outside the box and work your way back in. This will make great fodder for the daily wipe all this year. Start with Sanow and Schauble about 30 years ago. Forget Ahrens, Kanz, Rains, Sauer and Boynton. They are just locals, probably scratching their heads, wondering how they got caught up in this when they only wanted a budget in the black. These guys (good or bad, right or wrong) have gotten sucked up in something much bigger. Go for it Amber, find and tell us the whole story of "As the stomach turns". "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:35 AM:

" It's time to get rid of Hampel. She's no picnic and is devoid of people skills which this type of job requires. Dungy and the council will hammer things out, I don't think they should have fired him publicly but, when they do things outside the public's eye apparently Bjork, Sanow on 500+ signatories have issues then. The only law which has been broken here is the forgery. I'd be looking at the squeakiest wheel with a common denominator first and that's the former cop (Sanow not Dungy) and his letter writing cohort. There's a lot more investigation needs doing here and so far it appears to be misdirected. Lousy government isn't a crime it's a way of life in this country. But what are Sanow's and Bjork's motives in all this predating the council's swearing in? "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:23 AM:

" Are Sanow and Bjork in collusion with each other? Is the deputy investigating their computers and printers, also comparing usage, spelling and style in this forge letter? They should. What better way to cast a shadow than create the crime and then put a light on it? Question. How is it Bjork sent a letter "unbeknownst" to Sanow? Did he witness this alleged meeting? Did he get his information from Sanow? If so, are we supposed to believe the two never spoke of letter writing? Speaking of letter writing, here you have the beginning of how Sanow and Bjork work. It's not a jump and the sheriff should seriously investigate these two. There's something not right here. "

redbridge wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:22 AM:

" Lewiston's city council has had some tough choices. Council members and their families are long-time residents, well known in the community. It is difficult to understand how Richard Ahrens can be elected to public office by a community who knows this man. I cannot believe that he can put the interest of others before himself. When I've dealt with Richard, I've always felt like I needed to shower immediately. I expect investigators are on the right track...
"

legere wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:18 AM:

" It saddens me so to see this community and its elected officials embarrass themselves regularly in the Winona Daily News. Egos and stubbornness seem to govern this formerly lovely city that I used to call home. Lewiston citizens, encourage level headed folks to run for office and vote out the idiots in your next election. "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:14 AM:

" Question. How is it Dave Sanow just happens to catch a "clandestine" meeting, with camera in hand, BEFORE the city council is sworn in? This is a small town, these people talk all the time and Jack Kanz owns the feed store. So what? Is there EVIDENCE of any official city business taking place in Dave's photo? Amber, do some research and you'll find Sanow has been playing off duty police officer and tailing Richard Ahrens and Wayne Schauble for over a year. And yes, he has photos! Why? What is his agenda? Hint; look back to when he was a Lewiston cop. Question. Why is this Bjork so upset these guys are talking BEFORE being sworn in he has to send letters to everyone including his priest? What's his connection to Dave Sanow? "

Troller wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:05 AM:

" I've known Dave Sanow since his arrival in Lewiston back in 1978 as Dave Brand's deputy. You're right, there is definitely more to the story. In fact, I have known Dave very, very well. We used to be friends. It saddens me to say, but someone needs to be looking his direction closely. Dave has always played a little "loose" when it comes to getting his way or enforcing his sense of "right". The only one I don't know personally is Hampel but as luck would have it, she's pretty well known among several city clerks in the area and these people aren't surprised about her carrying on. It seems Dave and Barb may have created most of the issues here. More questions to come Amber! "


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